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  • #206998

    In reply to: Idea: HOG 3

    sfjtdr
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    Hi. I’ve had the HOG 1 for over 18 years. I play it through a rhodes and its never left my top.
    Running the freeze/gliss through stuff like arps (Enzo, Tararira) and Boss slicer etc is so tasty. Create on top around that… feed it to a looper and stack parts. it never ends.
    Anyway, my baby is finally starting to feel like it is splitting at the seams. So I came to EHX to see about a Hog 2, and noticed a “soon to be discontinued” image.
    Does this mean a HOG 3!? Anyway, I found this thread, and it got my mind thinking about what I would improve. Mostly for my use case.
    So I drew this quick mockup of my ideal HOG 3:
    https://i.postimg.cc/RVn24vC2/Untitled-Artwork.jpg
    Some of the features in bullet form, but it all makes more sense when you see the drawing:
    – smaller size, though not the size of of Superego+. Think Microcosm or Strymon Volante / Nightsky. I think it would have to be bigger becasue…
    – Stereo I/O and Stereo Dry out. Exp pedal. Midi I/O. that needs real estate
    – EXP reverse as a switch on the back. So it takes up less on the front.
    – Master and Dry Volume turned to knobs and placed above. To reduce pedal length (width?).
    – Next to Dry volume is a Time knob and glide knob. for what you ask…?
    – A sequencer. Where you can run each voice in succession according to a clock or a tap tempo.
    – exp pedal footswitch is REPLACED with sequencer start and stop (hold / latch). Tap tempo (tap). Again, Everyone uses this with the expression pedal. So the expression footswitch is a waste.
    – Sequencer step behavior: below each voice slider is an small multi LED button (like the small ones on the loopers), with three settings each: ON, REST, SKIP
    – TUNE: Above each slider is another small LED button. haha. Hold the button and Adjust the slider to detune each voice up + or – 2 semitones (or whatever). This should be able to get the user to get to almost any scale using the classic layout of the HOG as its base.
    – PAN: the same above leds can be held and glide knob is turned to adjust stereo panning for each voice. I can imagine it now. So sick.
    – WAVE SHAPE: like the EXP MODE selector except wave shape of either the general synthesis (would be HUGE) or the sequencer attack.
    – spectral gate button is smaller.
    – expression mode button is smaller (but still the classic layout).
    – sliders are smaller but not too much. They shouldn’t lose too much throw.
    – finally built in presets: 7 segment old school style with an encoder. Turn to number push to select hold for 5 seconds to save.
    – more on drawing.

    Id shit myself if I could have this. I score films and TV and  often use my rhodes and hog (plus other things) to create THE most unique textures.
    thanks for reading.
    S

    #206997

    In reply to: Idea: HOG 3

    sfjtdr
    Participant

    Hi. I’ve had the HOG 1 for over 18 years. I play it through a rhodes and its never left my top.
    Running the freeze and gliss through everything is incredible, and mixing the drone voices through stuff like arps (Enzo, Tararira) and Boss slicer.
    Anyway my baby is finally starting to feel like it is splitting at the seems. So I came to EHX to see about a hog 2, and noticed a “soon to be discontinued” image.
    Does this mean a HOG 3!? Anyway, I found this thread, and it got my mind thinking about what I would improve. Mostly for my use case.
    So I drew this quick mockup of my ideal HOG 3:
    https://i.postimg.cc/RVn24vC2/Untitled-Artwork.jpg
    Some of the features in bullet form, but it all makes more sense when you see the drawing:
    – smaller size, though not the size of of superego+. Think Microcosm or Strymon big boxes. I think it would have to be bigger becasue…
    – Stereo I/O and Stereo Dry out. Exp pedal. Midi I/O
    – EXP reverse as a switch on the back. So it takes up less on the front.
    – Master and Dry Volume turned to knobs and placed above. To reduce pedal length (width?).
    – Next to Dry volume is a Time knob and glide knob. for what you ask…?
    – A sequencer. Where you can run each voice in succession according to a clock or a tap tempo.
    – exp pedal footswitch is REPLACED with sequencer start and stop (hold / latch). Tap tempo (tap). Again, Everyone uses this with the expression pedal.
    – Sequencer step behavior: below each voice slider is an small multi LED button (like the preset buttons on the attack decay) with three settings each. ON, REST, SKIP
    – TUNE: Above each slider is another small LED button haha. Hold the button and Adjust the slider to detune each voice up + or – 2 semitones (or whatever). This should be able to get the user to get to almost any scale based on the classic layout of the HOG.
    – PAN: the same above leds can be held and glide knob is turned to adjust stereo panning for each voice.
    – WAVE SHAPE: like EXP mode selector except wave shape of either the general synthesis (would be HUGE) or the sequencer attack.
    – spectral gate button is smaller.
    – expression mode button is smaller (but still the classic layout).
    – sliders are smaller but not too much. They shouldn’t lose too much throw.
    – finally built in presets: 7 segment old school style with an encoder. turn to number push to select hold for 5 seconds to save.

    Id shit myself if I could have this. I score films and TV and often use my rhodes and hog (plus other things) to create THE most unique textures.
    thanks for reading.
    S

    #206999
    sfjtdr
    Participant

    Hi. I’ve had the HOG 1 for over 18 years. I play it through a rhodes and its never left my top.
    Running the freeze/gliss through stuff like arps (Enzo, Tararira) and Boss slicer etc is so tasty. Create on top around that… feed it to a looper and stack parts. it never ends.
    Anyway, my baby is finally starting to feel like it is splitting at the seams. So I came to EHX to see about a Hog 2, and noticed a bleeding “soon to be discontinued” image.
    Does this mean a HOG 3!? Anyway, it got my mind thinking about what I would improve. Mostly for my use case.
    So I drew this quick mockup of my ideal HOG 3:
    https://i.postimg.cc/RVn24vC2/Untitled-Artwork.jpg
    Some of the features in bullet form, but it all makes more sense when you see the drawing:
    – smaller size, though not the size of of Superego+. Think Microcosm or Strymon Volante / Nightsky. I think it would have to be bigger becasue…
    – Stereo I/O and Stereo Dry out. Exp pedal. Midi I/O. that needs real estate
    – EXP reverse as a switch on the back. So it takes up less on the front.
    – Master and Dry Volume turned to knobs and placed above. To reduce pedal length (width?).
    – Next to Dry volume is a Time knob and glide knob. for what you ask…?
    – A sequencer. Where you can run each voice in succession according to a clock or a tap tempo.
    – exp pedal footswitch is REPLACED with sequencer start and stop (hold / latch). Tap tempo (tap). Again, Everyone uses this with the expression pedal. So the expression footswitch is a waste.
    – Sequencer step behavior: below each voice slider is an small multi LED button (like the small ones on the loopers), with three settings each: ON, REST, SKIP
    – TUNE: Above each slider is another small LED button. haha. Hold the button and Adjust the slider to detune each voice up + or – 2 semitones (or whatever). This should be able to get the user to get to almost any scale using the classic layout of the HOG as its base.
    – PAN: the same above leds can be held and glide knob is turned to adjust stereo panning for each voice. I can imagine it now. So sick.
    – WAVE SHAPE: like the EXP MODE selector except wave shape of either the general synthesis (would be HUGE) or the sequencer attack.
    – spectral gate button is smaller.
    – expression mode button is smaller (but still the classic layout).
    – sliders are smaller but not too much. They shouldn’t lose too much throw.
    – finally built in presets: 7 segment old school style with an encoder. Turn to number push to select hold for 5 seconds to save.
    – more on drawing.

    Id shit myself. I score films and TV and  often use my rhodes and hog (plus other things) to create THE most unique textures.
    thanks for reading.
    S

    #196906
    Memory_Man
    Participant

    Hello everybody, new here on the forum and must say I’m a big (vintage) Ehx fan!

    Recently bought this dream pedal and after having lot of fun and trying stuff out I run into some problems….

    The pedal worked fine, only thing I noticed that it had a very low output compared to other vintage drum pedals I own. Dont know if this is normal?
    Then I wanted more and use the clock in and connect to clock outs like my 16 second delay but didnt work. No movement in the sequence once I put a cable into the clock in jack. I noticed when adding voltage’s I could move the sequence, and then it happened I added to much voltage (9volt) and the sequencer was gone!

    Now the pedal makes sound on the first step only. When I power it up it sometimes the light of the 7th or 8th step are lit but after trigering it it stay on 1. I dont have much experience in repairing pedals but managed to get some working by swapping IC’s and OPamps and have basic skills with my multi meter.

    Tried to swap the 4013 & 4015 but with no succes, most voltage’s seem correct at first.

    Any tips or advice to make this dream pedal shine in its full glory and all 8 steps?

    • This topic was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by Memory_Man.
    #184540
    psouper
    Participant

    Did some further ‘research’ and found that if you use the output from an EHX 8 Step sequencer as the clock source for the Attack Decay- setting up a pattern on which every other slider is either right up or right down then the Attack Decay envelope will fire in perfect sync. seems the only way to get it to work.

    #124124
    EHX STAFF
    Keymaster

    Sorry, Sounds like the synths you have will not work.
    The 8-STEP is an analog sequencer that connects to the expression
    pedal input of many different types of effects pedals, keyboards and other devices. Think
    of the 8-STEP as replacing your
    expression pedal, controlling parameters in a sequential fashion rather than continuously as
    you normally do with an expression pedal. Additionally, the 8-STEP can be connected to
    devices that have Control Voltage (CV) inputs.

    For questions please contact service at info@ehx.com 9-5pm NYC time

    The manual if you need it for the 8 Step Program Analog Expression/CV Sequencer is here.
    https://www.ehx.com/assets/instructions/8-step-program.pdf

    Pete Thoms
    Member

    Has anybody got that working? I had no problems with an Arturia Beatstep Pro, but that device has dedicated drum trigger outs.

    Using those CV-gate out on the Korg doesn‘t seem to be doing anything, and I tried different voltage settings…

    Help, please… thanx

    #85386
    LiSZeN
    Member

    Hi,

    can you think the clockworks further?

    There can be an clockworks plus with a four channel euclidian rhythm section.

    On slider for the output voltage control an two rotary knobs for the the divisor and one for all counts.

    And four big displays with shows rings of actual step and the settings of the knobs above like

    https://dbkaplun.github.io/euclidean-rhythm/ !!!!

    I’ll think it can be a good selling product for all sequencer fans.

    Cheers,

    HUE

    diegoarts
    Member

    It’s about time…time…time… :-)

    The Hazarai needs an upgrade and the new Superego+ let me think of a Digital Delay Pedal from EHX in the likes of the Hazarai with a few added extras.

    Imagine the Effects from the Superego+ in the Delay line of a new stereo delay. You wouldn’t have to add an Fx Loop (although that would be great anyway!), you’d have a good choice of effects on board, maybe even one or two secondary delay lines (how about a basic analog delay as insert, and a digital one for great rhythmic and binsonish stuff). And of course all kind of modulation (maybe even an TZ-Flanger).

    Of course it should have presets (and maybe without extra pedal and maybe more than 6 or 9).

    One should be able to mess with the delay signal, so EQ, maybe bitreduction and LBH-pass filtering…

    What more?! Of course Expressionpedal Modes like on the Super Pulsar. And hey – while we’re at it – the 16-step sequencer on the super pulsar as a rhythm-step-sequencer for the repeats… yummi!

    So, when can I buy one?! ;-)

    #123109

    In reply to: Clockworks/8 Step MIDI

    Fender&EHX4ever
    Moderator
    Quote:
    I was bummed there was no midi options on the Clockworks but figured what the hell, its a faithful reissue and lets not muddy it up with midi etc. I figured it was kind of meant to use with the 8 Step Program and that that would be able to function as a MIDI>Trigger interface…but he 8 Step only has MIDI In and no Clock/Gate/Trigger out!!!! What the hell. Would have been great to sync MIDI clock from MPC/DAW/etc to the 8 Step, then 8 Step syncing the Clockworks…voila you have a MIDI syncable polyrhythmic trigger system with a CV sequencer. Almost like a ARP Sequencer in pedal format.

    TBH theres not much use for using these in combinations with EHX pedals which don’t typically have MIDI. OK I should never say that but they are really much more powerful tools in the vintage synth/eurorack realm.

    Page 6 of the 8 Step manual gives the steps for connecting to an external clock https://www.ehx.com/assets/instructions/8-step-program.pdf

    If you are lucky enough to grab a Molten Voltage CV-Sync, it will allow you to sync both the Clockworks and the 8 Step to any MIDI clock source.

    #84983
    ancaja123
    Participant

    I was bummed there was no midi options on the Clockworks but figured what the hell, its a faithful reissue and lets not muddy it up with midi etc. I figured it was kind of meant to use with the 8 Step Program and that that would be able to function as a MIDI>Trigger interface…but he 8 Step only has MIDI In and no Clock/Gate/Trigger out!!!! What the hell. Would have been great to sync MIDI clock from MPC/DAW/etc to the 8 Step, then 8 Step syncing the Clockworks…voila you have a MIDI syncable polyrhythmic trigger system with a CV sequencer. Almost like a ARP Sequencer in pedal format.

    TBH theres not much use for using these in combinations with EHX pedals which don’t typically have MIDI. OK I should never say that but they are really much more powerful tools in the vintage synth/eurorack realm.

    #123036
    Fender&EHX4ever
    Moderator

    Love it! I can’t wait to try it with a HOG2 and the 8-Step Sequencer simultaneously.

    #84912
    Buck Nature
    Participant

    I just got an 8 Step Program and I’m running it with a Pitchfork and between those two pedals and the Hazarai down stream, I’m getting some pretty lush, rhythmic, and far out sounds. I’d really like to incorporate it into my recordings with the drum synth I use on my phone. Is there a simple, relatively inexpensive way to assign a bpm to the 8 Step?

    I am pretty ignorant and new to this side of music…recording, sequencers, drum machines, etc (for the longest time it was just an acoustic and a beer, dig?). I’ve done some reading about MIDI and CV gates, and I’m not sure which direction to go and at this point I have all the gear I need to make the recordings I currently want to make, so just a metronome I can use to regulate the 8 Step would be perfect. Does such a thing exist?

    thanks y’all

    #84615
    Patrick O
    Member

    My 8 step sequencer makes no sound when plugged into expression input, but you can hear sound when plugged into instrument input, but then you can’t hear guitar. what am I doing wrong?

    #84239
    Triplanetary
    Member

    Has anyone tested the 8 step sequencer compatabilty with pitchfork ?

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